November 21, 2024

VIDEO: What Permaculture Got Wrong – Dispelling Five Common Myths


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30 thoughts on “VIDEO: What Permaculture Got Wrong – Dispelling Five Common Myths

  1. It's not worth my time to give a point by point critique of your many logical fallacies disingenuous arguments. When your mindset is that everything must be economically scalable, you've missed the permaculture ethic entirely.

  2. your complaints or "myths" seem unfounded, perhaps from lack of knowledge on the subject ar hand. it can be sxaled.to any size. food forests can be scaled up to "large scale" fine. you just seem determined to monoculture on a long line. but you do you.

  3. I take everything with a grain of salt. Big Ag has a vested interest, so does Big EUGENICS like Bill Gates , his ilk who don't want people to thrive and die off, that said , have a contest. who's system is more sustainable .

  4. Curtis, you nailed it. Conventional ag is not the enemy. Dogmatic thinking is. Ya gotta take a best practices approach to agriculture. Cover cropping on a large scale is turning the tide. Otherwise it's called gardening…where you can afford the luxury of not having to feed 7 billion people.

  5. You don't have to offer a solution to criticise an idea. You do, however, have to understand the idea to criticise it. No offense.
    I see that the word permaculture is being thrown around by almost everyone who digs a swale or does a little bit of companion planting right now. I get that you criticise those people for poorly understanding and implementing ideas, whis is naturally followed by numerous problems that you pointed out. However, either you don't really understand yourself the difference between those people and the principles of permaculture or maybe you just wanted a lot of views – in which case, congrats on spreading misinformation and collaborating with the general rubbish culture of i-don't-care-what-happens-tomorrow. If that's not the case, i highly suggest you research and learn a bit more about permaculture and proceed to make a more educated and focused critique soon, which will probably also get you a lot of views. And there you have it, 'the problem is the solution.' Also, a bit of modesty could prove very beneficial and healing to you. Again, no offense. Have a great day.

  6. So when it dosent support your profit or business mentality its not useful? If everyone grew there own food through permaculture in there backyard we wouldn't need your big multi billion dollar profit farms. But I see what your trying to get at.

  7. Interesting points Curtis. Though in regard to mulching, I think that's more the Geoff Lawton method who designed his system to be sustainable in harsh conditions with lack of water and bad soil like Australia (where he's from) and Jordan near the dead sea. That kind of design wasn't intended for a place like Canada. Can still work in Canada, but not the environment it was designed for.

  8. Primitive agriculture consumes way too much land for production in the amounts it provides. We need to find ways to use less land to grow food, not more. Agriculture is a labor intensive human construct that allows for larger populations that are healthier due to regular, consistent food production.

  9. Thanks for making this video. I am a year into my home garden journey and still learning and making mistakes and it is good for me to look at the other side of the discussion. All the best.

  10. "mulch is going to keep your soil cold and delay your planting, so some people are pulling mulch off and that's heavy, but a tattoo you can peel it off"

    Tarp full of snow is gonna be heavier than a 3cm ring of wood chips. Sorry.

    And if the mulch is actively composting, that generates heat, not inhibits it.

    If you want to talk about objective and reality, then actually do the scientific method and try it both ways and see.

  11. What I see is primarily a supersized zone 1 garden. High input, predictable output. With the gardener at work every day. I am guessing that this market garden will still be able to produce well into the future without destruction of the soil biome, land erosion, or any other bad practices. I would call that permaculture.

  12. Sure there is some fact of what you say due to labor but nobody is trying to replace an entire system at this very second. Acknowledging where our systems lack now and making appropriate changes in course of direction towards something more sustainable for everyone. If there were neighborhoods that sustained each other on large scale then big business agriculture isn’t needed.

  13. Permaculture was never proposed to be a solution for large scale vegetable production…kinda pathetic to hear this 'farmer' dissing a system meant to facilitate harmonizing human and environmental health…really sad to hear so much criticism with such a poor understanding of the intent of a good system of knowlege

  14. Permaculture design is actually cheaper to enable for large management of large mixed use forestry and agriculture. For intensive industrial farm, the efficiency is greater until a break within the supply chain. Reliable and stable by specialization is as strong as your weakest supply link.

  15. If I wanted a monoculture I would have not done it like that. Use hydroponics for reliability, I think you could do more to reduce pests, I think natural solutions like chickens and bats could solve a lot of pest problems, perhaps your medium article would help me understand but I think you can expect a certain amount of loss and account for it for sure, and you're doing a very conventional set up but I think you could produce more efficiently with hydroponics and have it be just as reliable and more on demand for your location

  16. 1. Food forests don't dependably fix big ag problems
    2. Lazy gardening is an oxymoron
    3. Total mulching is impractical
    4. Swales are overapplied
    5. Permaculture doesn't cure all pest issues

  17. Right off the bat you let us know that you don't have the necessary awareness to realize that large scale agriculture is the problem in itself and you obviously don't understand permaculture design.

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