May 14, 2024

VIDEO: Why I don't do BACK TO EDEN Gardening


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30 thoughts on “VIDEO: Why I don't do BACK TO EDEN Gardening

  1. Charles Dowding has a commercial garden and he is the no-dig, layering master. Works for him. Not sure he does wood chips though. But why isn’t Patricia Lanza getting any mention in any of this? She is the lasagna garden, no-dig originator!

  2. Bro, you keep the woodchips as a path you don't put it overtop of your beds you put compost or I use worm castings from my worms, it works great think of the woodchips as a small moist river and you walking on it protects the raw soil. You still mantain the beds with open soil. It is cleaner for working and your tool will still work.

  3. I think Back to Eden is definitely possible on a commercial scale without sacrificing efficiency. Even highly beneficial. Less input of watering which means less infrastructure needed and less labor. It comes down to crop choices.
    Long term crops like garlic, nightshades, melons, squash etc would do great. Bare soil leads to erosion and compaction. No way to get around that without covering your soil. Market gardeners pay a lot of money to bring in compost and amendments. Why let a percantage of that literally wash away every year?
    It doesn't happen commercially for 3 reasons I suspect. These are longer term crops and with the exception of a few, aren't that profitable. The cost of bringing in organic mulch. I suspect the third reason nobody does it (Daniel Mays of Frith Farm might disagree, big proponent of covering the soil) is that they aren't sure how to proceed on a commercial scale. Precisely because nobody has done it.
    Why not start it exactly like you would any other. Compost down on lawn (one time thick layer) and woodchips directly on top. Still have beds and walkways marked out. Maybe mess around with bed size until your dialled in on it. With longer term crops it might make more sense to go away from 30 inch.
    The biggest downside is obviously the transplanting time. However if it's a one time thing with a long bed life I think the positives outweigh the negatives. If your worried about fertility issues with this system maybe drop some long term fertilizer in the hole during transplant. I think a foliar spray like fish emulsion, seaweed or compost tea would also be a great option for this sort of system.

  4. Many ways to do the same thing, except for soul salvation. That is the same for everyone, tho the specifics of that relationship are different for everyone.
    Jesus isn’t a monoculture. He is for everybody. He is the universal hero. Js, religion is bad but Jesus is real. That’s not religion. It’s personal revelation that billions have discovered for thousands of years.
    Sure Christian religion is also a thing, and sometimes it’s bad, but Jesus is universally true.
    “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Me”

  5. Missing the philosophy of taking time. We get it. But not everybody is thinking in metaphors of capitalism. Agricultural revolution won't happen if everybody will be attached to old myths like "time is money". It's the opposite. 

    Money needs linear time to exist – as a promise towards future.

    If you garden to make a living, the videos here are quite useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ04HY1wD1k and if you don't want to own a tractor and if you want to make it even more profitable, the videos here are best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_KY6B9eg6U.

    While critique without proposing better solutions is unnecessary. It's always easier to criticise than to create.

  6. This dude is non stop talking about wood chips lol
    He said " wood chips" so many times without mentioning compost that i stopped watching… The compost is the star of the BTE show, wood chips is just the mulch on top. Straw or cut grass clippings are bette than wood chips anyways….

  7. I think you misunderstood what Paul Gauchi is doing. He never mentions what density you should plant with this method. He says in multiple videos that he plants this way because of his upbringing and because he deals with an over abundance of food. He also doesn’t use pure wood chips in his garden. He uses a layer of compost from his chickens that he has sifted then he puts a layer of partially composted sifted wood chips. He is able to plant seeds strait in the ground because he does this. It is completely viable on a commercial scale even with having to put in the work of spending time and energy to put the layers down. He only does it once every other year currently, and he uses no pesticides and gets very little bug damage. Paul’s method also uses the principle of do more now and you will have to do less later. If you take into account the costs and labor of most farming methods, regardless if it is organic, such as fertilizer, pesticides, preparing the soil, water usage and labor his method becomes equal to or even superior to most methods in all aspects over time. Not to mention it is sustainable, uses oftentimes free mulches and creates less work and more quality the longer you use his method. He mentions in his video that any mulch is good just that he has found woodchips( chipped branches) to be the best. Chipped branches being 90% leaves and 10% branches. Whether or not you choose to use the Back to Eden method is up to you. It is clear from this video that you have misunderstood part of his method, and stuck far too rigidly to other parts of his method even though he encourages you to fit it to your needs. So please don’t say things like it can’t be used on a commercial scale before you done ample research. People such as myself have thought up a lot of ways that it can be used on a commercial scale in very practical ways at low costs and minimal labor. Nothing wrong with your method though, your place looks wonderful.

  8. This poor guy REALLY don't get it does he? We can throw down chips and have plants growing in em in less that 4 weeks! This guy needs to smoke a little pot, or find some way to loosen up a little! His brain must be clogged or something?

  9. Paul Gautschi uses screened chicken yard material for his vegetables, not wood chips. The wood chip mulch is only used on fruit trees and perennials.

  10. In life there are many areas where things can be done in a multitude of ways, but God is a bad example, there can only be one way. Not saying which way is right, just that two diametrically opposed paths cannot lead to the same destination.

  11. It doesnt work in a commercial setting? I think I remember ancient israel following this principal mixed with obedience and they were so abundant that they were not only lending and selling, but eating the harvest of 1 single year two years later.

  12. With the Eden Garden you get a much higher percentage yield per plant. So the spacing doesn’t cut production because each plant produces more than double your plants.

  13. Greed is what desolates our planet and brought global warming.

    Keep up destroying the soil and spraying pesticides and GMO 's and throwing the whole ecosystem out of wack, and poisoning our kids, and let's see how far humanity will get.

  14. He said to remove the chips when you are planting seeds…

    I believe the reason why he spreads them apart is so he can walk through them easily because he is disabled. I believe that he is doing gardening for himself, and he sells a few in the process.

    I'm sure that with robotics these days, they can figure a machine that can do all the planting and harvesting.

  15. Hey Curtis, one question here from Germany: What is the reason for higher dense planting with your method ? why can't I plant with the same density with wood chips / back to eden method ?… Kind regards

  16. The wet side of the west coast is a great place to use this method because of the seasonal cycle of rainfall (6-10 months depending on location and the year, followed by pretty dependable drought summer) and mild winters.

    Even all the way up in Sequim, frost never happens until October, not even then some years, and ground freeze doesn't necessarily even happen every year. Of course the woodchips protect the ground and the roots in them from said occasional hard freezes as well.

  17. Actually, it is not Back to Eden that is a problem. It is your idea that you need to grow a lot more food than you need to grow. It is not the farming method that is the problem. It is your preconceived notions about how business works. I know how to make this work on a very large scale. And, it is simple.

    Pay for labor instead of large, expensive farm equipment.

  18. Jim Kovaleski does semi-finished compost with wood-chips and he's a market gardener. He farms on a 1/4 acre, alone. A bit different to 'back to Eden' because Jim's market garden is obviously intensive. People just have their own ways of doing things (context).

  19. You can make any size beds with back to eden. I've rows just like yours using mulch, no till. As far as the planting goes. Just rake the mulch aside for planting. I think mindset is a big factor in trying something new.

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